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It is otherwise, however, with the distinction between the empirical-historical Jesus and the existential-historical Jesus, since in this case there is in both parts of the distinction not only an ontic reference to the actual Jesus as an event of the past, but also a noetic reference to someone for whom the actual Jesus is such an event, whether an _empirical-_historical event or an _existential-_historical event, or, possibly, both.

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