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The distinction between Jesus-in-his-being-in-himself and Jesus-in-his-meaning-for-us is not really but only verbally different from the distinction between the "what" of the actual Jesus and his "that." Both parts of the distinction have to do with the actual Jesus, and both parts have an exclusively ontic reference, the "that" of the actual Jesus, and so the meaning of Jesus for us, being as much an event of the past prior to and independent of us as his "what,"' or the being of Jesus in himself, is such a past event.

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