Discussion

• John and Axel talked about Selenium as a web application test platform.
  • It will be necessary to incorporate this into our Tools discussion. We can't talk about Unit Testing and test-driven development and then fall short when it comes to testing UI. Selenium will help us apply xUnit testing to AJAX web UIs and close that gap.
    • How does it work with Adobe Flash applications? More discussion/investigation needed.
• Karen and Bill talked about MI6 application in the ETC.
  • Better to start off with simple request workflows and move on to project management workflows.
  • We will form a subgroup to implement ETC workflows in MI6.
• Shannon will have time to work on the unit testing example in the next few weeks while he is commuting to the city.
• How do we move forward with the Tools process?
  • We need an example application of reasonable complexity that we can build a case-study around.
  • Discussed using the Technology Portal.
    • Use Iteration 2 Refactoring to build out the Tools methdology and documentation.
    • Use Iteration 3 feature requests to implement Process and Tools methodology,
  • Will discuss with Steve Wozniak and see if he's on board. A lot will depend on his availability and schedule. We can then get everyone in the Methodology group to help refactor, and moreover to document the case-study aspect of it.
• Shannon raised the point that we are not covering Web Services
  • • Web services as a consume
    • Web services as a provider
    • Russell will investigate Django/Python support and report back.

Tasks

• Russell and Axel will meet with Steve to discuss using the refactoring of the Technology Portal as a case study for the Tools documentation.
• Axel will research Python IDEs (with specific attention to Django if possible)
• Russell will look into Django support for web-services, i.e. building a Django application as a web service provider.
• John will continue to investigate Selenium.
• John will look at Adobe Flex vs. AJAX rich-client solutions
• Karen, Bill, John, and Marsha will form a sub-group to implement MI6 workflows in ETC.
• John and Axel will implement ITS MI6 workflows.
• Shannon will finish out the unit testing example.

Change of meeting format

The next phase of the methodology development project will focus on the Technology Portal and its application as a case-study. It may be appropriate to switch from weekly meetings of the entire group to smaller subgroups and use bi-weekly stand-up meetings to keep the group updated. We will no more after meeting with Steve.